RobGrizzly  02/17/08

A nice theory. But I think there is only one reason why Locke couldn't find the cabin; The matter is as simple as Ben said it was last season: You don't just walk up and knock on the door.

The big deal about Jacob is that NO ONE calls on Jacob- he calls on you...

John obviously doesn't know the Island as much as he'd like to right now, and he happened to bring like, TWO DOZEN people with him! I wasn't surprised at all the the cabin wasn't there, and in fact, I was glad. (because it upholds my theory of who/what Jacob is...)

DocArzt  02/17/08

Ah, but even then the cabin was at least there, which is a clue about Ben's nature as well. Even though we assume Ben to be a bad guy, or at least a darkly ambiguous one, Jacob trusts him enough to allow an audience; even if Ben cannot talk with Jacob any longer (if he ever could at all.)

Still, I don't think we can talk anything Ben says at face value. Yet the end result is the same, the cabin/Jacob clearly has a will of its own.

RobGrizzly  02/18/08

Indeed

Capncrunch  02/18/08

I thought maybe there was a break in the substance surroundling Jacob's Cabin that is allegedly holding it in place (a sonic barrier of the kitty litter kind) and now it is free to move about the island.
AND/OR
Maybe since the only two times we've seen the Cabin is at night and the fact that Jacob did not respond well to Locke's flashlight, is that Jacob and his Cabin do not appear during daylight hours.

BQuain  02/18/08

RobGriz nailed it perfectly. It's exactly what Ben says. No other reason! Jacob didnt want to be seen by Team Locke and a hungry Aaron. Claire, please feed the baby already!

I don't think we need to worry about Jacob right now...give it time

b.quain

Rose Tyler  02/18/08

I don't think Ben is really going to seem like just a "bad" guy when all the details surrounding his motivations come to light. That said, I agree that Jacob controls who finds the cabin and when. He clearly didn't want all the visitors. I'm more confused at why John thought he might. Maybe Ghost Walt told him to.

lennon  02/19/08

I agree that you don't call on Jacob, he calls on you.
I also think the cabin is where the "wall" is thin between time dimensions or death or whatever.
I do believe that we someone will see Hurley in the chair at some point, I don't think you can ever see yourself in the chair. I think the chair and possibly the cabin are a portal of some sort. I've often thought after season 3 finale that the bearded "help me" figure in the chair resembled bearded future Jack as he is trying to get back to the island. I think that's why we'll see Hurley in his mental hospital duds as he is trying to get back too.

lennon  02/19/08

I agree that you don't call on Jacob, he calls on you.
I also think the cabin is where the "wall" is thin between time dimensions or death or whatever.
I do believe that we someone will see Hurley in the chair at some point, I don't think you can ever see yourself in the chair. I think the chair and possibly the cabin are a portal of some sort. I've often thought after season 3 finale that the bearded "help me" figure in the chair resembled bearded future Jack as he is trying to get back to the island. I think that's why we'll see Hurley in his mental hospital duds as he is trying to get back too.

DocArzt  02/19/08

Rose: I think your right. I've interviewed Michael a couple of times and I always push that possibility hoping he'll slip up. I think he's the hero if anything.

BQuain: RobGriz really preached the same sermon, we're both positing something a little more than anthropomorphism here.

Capncrunch: Ben's reaction to Locke touching it was interesting, eh? Like it is either very important and not to be tampered with, or it is completely irrelevant.

b.wall  02/19/08

i also think that the reason Locke couldn't find Jacob was a combo of the fact that the volcanic ash circle that was keeping it was some how broken..maybe the others stepped on it on their way to wherever Ben sent them in TTLG? Also, since the barrier was broken, i feel like its most definetly a matter of whether Jacob wants to see you or not. since hes not being held down in one place, he obviously can now be more selective on who he wants to see/talk to/guide/ give advice etc. etc..

JenJen  02/19/08

Rose Tyler: Um, Ben gassed what looked like hundreds of men, women, and children. Now he's developed a list, and Sayid's picking them off one by one. I'm not sure what kind of motivations could totally justify these actions.

Capncrunch  02/19/08

DocArzt: Is anything in LOST completely irrelevent? They focused on that in two episodes for a reason.

By the way, did anyone notice the ring of ash around the cabin when Hurley saw it?

DocArzt  02/19/08

Capncrunch: I HIGHLY doubt it. We're having that conversation about Naomi's bracelet and Elsa's bracelet. Were they the same style? Would Sayid have looked at them if they weren't? But seriously, I was winking when I suggested Ben was being dismissive. We know it's definitely something. ;)

Rose Tyler  02/19/08

We know so little about Ben that I think it's much too early to judge his actions. Sayid did horrible things before coming to the island and even after. Yet, we still consider him a "good" guy. Also what do we know about the Dharma people Ben gassed? Not much and very little of it good. Oh and do you know what Ben's list means? So much on this show falls into a grey area. Lest not forget how many Others the survivors have knocked off. You have to take a person's perspective into account when judging them to be either good or evil. Frankly, we're not always privy to those. Yet.
Oh and I think Naomi and Elsa's bracelets were the same.

Capncrunch  02/20/08

I think Naomi and Elsa's bracelets were of the same kind but maybe not the exact same bracelet. It is possible that Naomi received her bracelet from her boss that is also Elsa's boss. Maybe "the Economist" hands out bracelets to all of his/her employees (think of Charlies Angels as Economists Angels) Do you think that Sayid, years after taking the deceased Naomi's bracelet off of her limp cold arm, gave it to someone else - complete with mysterious inscription inside?

Rose Tyler  02/21/08

There is an interveiw on ew.com today in which Lindeof and Cuse say the bracelets mean nil. So if we take them at their word then it's back to the drawing board. Though I'm still not unconvinced that Abbaddon isn't the "economist" and he and Ben have been after each other for a long time. Could be that our poor castways crashed into an already heated battle between these two men and are now in the crosshairs.

Salemskeeper  02/29/08

I think everyone's focusing on the wrong thing. It's not the cabin Locke wants, it's Jacob. I guess Locke expected to run up w/ a crowd of people & let them all in on his secret of Jacob? Of course Jacob isn't going to let them see him, and if he's trapped in the cabin, when it vanishes he goes w/ it. Jacob is "leading" Locke to his true purpose(or what John thinks it to be) but why would he do that with everyone around-especially the enemy, Charlottee, Daniel, Miles, & Ben.
Maybe Jacob isn't as powerful as Locke thinks him to be. He wants Jacob to be his savior, the one who tells him what to do for the good of the island.
We'll see Jacob & the cabin again, but I'll bet there won't be a group around to stare.