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charinator wins! charinator beat Justin 5 to 2.
X-Men Adventures on FOX was the best cartoon series ever that was based on a comic book.
charinator said
Yes, that means you Spidey, Batman, and Superman.
Bring. It. On.
Justin said
I would agree with you if you stated that X-men on FOX was the best cartoon series ever that was based on a MARVEL comic book, even though X-men Evolution and Fox's Spider-man were both quite good.
X-men was alright, but the voice acting was weak and many of the stories were simplified and weaker compared to the storylines from the comic book. Plus, the show pretty much fizzled out at the end of it's lifespan. Plus the memory of the show may be ruined by the new Wolverine and X-men series that is in production.
And while series such as Batman and Justice League is on par with X-men, and in some cases are superior shows, my vote for the greatest cartoon series based on a comic book would have to be Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (the original, not any of these modern series).
charinator said
I strongly disagree. The show was as faithful to the comics as it could have possibly been in a 30 min series. It didn't water down anything or ignore even the smallest subplots, no matter how insignificant. I especially loved how they would do sagas every now and then, exactly the way it was in the comics (Dark Phoenix Saga was perhaps the best extended storylines in Marvel lore and FOX's adaption was as phenomenal as it gets). If anything, the show was much more entertaining than the comics.
As for the voices, they were on point in terms of what you would expect them to sound like based on the comics. From Gambit's southern accent, to Apocalypse's deep basso voice, to Wolverine's raspy tone, the characters sounded exactly the way they should have. Only one character, Storm, had a voice that had the potential to verge on annoying. But if you read the comics she always has these long-winded, weird things to say. And in the end, everything Storm says grows on you and you find yourself mimicking what she said
Great show!
Justin said
It was a pretty good show, especially when I was 12, but I don't think it would hold up as well over time as Batman has, which was from around the same time period.
The show tried to stay close to the comics, but failed on many levels. By not featuring original members such as Angel and Iceman in favor of 90's fads such as Gambit the show suffered. Same with spotlighting a shallow character like Jubilee rather than Kitty Pride. Also, in Days of Future Past, Forge, Bishop, and Cable were not involved (or even created yet) like they were in the cartoon's version. That suffered because it felt like they were tacked on for the cool factor and did not add much to the story. I will give credit though for seemingly killing a team member early on in the series, that was brave.
While X-men is a quality show, others such as Batman, Justice League, and Spider-man captured the comic better than X-men ever did. Even TMNT, which was not faithful, fully exceeded for being fun and ridiculous on purpose. What are your thoughts on these shows, and where do they falter where X-men shines? All 5 are quality shows, but I don't think that X-men can be named the best of them all.
charinator said
Don't get me wrong, Justice League, Spiderman, and Batman were great shows. I watched every one of them. But X-Men was simply the most entertaining. X-Men never just focused on one person. It took you into this vast mutant universe where every character was unique and exciting. And that is where X-Men stands out above the rest. The fact that they could incorporate so many characters into the show and make each of them so compelling is a tough task to do. Even Jubilee (yes, I said Jubilee) had her moments. She's given a lot of flack because she was so weak (which she was). But, really, what could we expect from someone who just learned of her mutant powers and is still learning what her capabilities are.
As for choosing new characters (like Gambit and Jubilee) over the older, more known characters, I feel that was a judgment call from the creators. If you remember, there was another X-Men show that came out a few years before X-Men Adventures and it wasn't met with a lot of fanfare. I think the creators felt that if they incorporated newer, less known characters then it would add a well needed novelty to an already vastly popular comic. And in my opinion it worked out great.
Justin said
X-men was a great show......... for it's time.
Thanks to this throwdown, I checked out the final episode of the series on YouTube. This was an episode I have never seen. the show did not hold up very well, but it was unintentionally hilarious. I forgot just how bad some of the voices and accents were (see: Moira McTaggert's Scottish accent.)
While it was fun to watch the show again, it did not hold up over time, which is a necessary quality when calling a show the best of it's kind. Batman holds up. Even TMNT, which was lighter than it's counterpart has held up slightly bttter, and I think that Justice League will hold up well in 10-15 years.
Yes, X-men was fantastic for it's time, but calling it the greatest cartoon based on a comic book? I don't think so, it just does not stand up to the test of time very well.
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jkcampbell 03/10/08
90s X-Men on Fox? Awww, yeah!
Charinator, I will meet you at the monorail!
charinator 03/11/08
haha jkcampbell!! That line was repeated ad nauseum by me and my brother for years. Best line in the history of television!!!
sinakitty 03/12/08
I so agree. The X-Men cartoon from the 90's was the best cartoon based on a comic book.
Rogue was great on the cartoon.
Salemskeeper 03/12/08
Umm...TMNT anyone? Anyone? No? LOL
RobGrizzly 03/12/08
I don't know which side to take! On the one hand, X-Men kicked more **** than any cartoon, possibly ever. I think it was truer to the comics than any other series, even FOX's Spiderman (which also did a good job honoring the comics). Gambit was a fantastic addition, though I missed Shadowcat.
On the other hand, that said, I don't think it was better than Batman:The Animated Series. Its close, but Batman was f'n brilliant! It was dark and mature, focusing on detective work and not crazy action. Mark Hamil's Joker is some of the best voice work ever, and they introduced the world to Harley Quinn.
The best thing about TMNT was the theme song. Even though I loved the show, the cartoon itself (goofball shredder, hardly any fighting) was nothing like the uber-dark TMNT comics.
MadmJay 03/12/08
I have never read an X-Men comic, but I LOVED that show. Gambit talked just like my Uncle Bo. I'm not sure how great it will be to watch now but it still holds a place in my heart. I made the mistake of re-watching Thundercats a couple of months ago. BAD IDEA!
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