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Mr. Burns is the best villian in TV history.

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demetrithegreek said

There is no argument. The man is 100% pure evil. He not only terrorizes Springfield, but he's Homer's boss, which makes him an important part of the Simpsons' lives.

And there's no end to his evilness. He has no regard for human life, animal life, the environment, the sun, emotions, or even the Rolling Stones. He only cares about two things: money and his beloved bear Bobo.

He is the perfect balance of wickedly funny (he has a knife-fighting pet monkey named "Furious George") and just plain wicked (he makes Smithers donate most of his skin when Furious George is injured in a knife fight).

RobGrizzly said

We meet again! Okay, I'll bite.

Montgomery Burns. A dastardly fellow indeed! Pretty funny. But also rediculously old and fragile. As bad as he seems to be, he's actually quite harmless. One of the downsides to being a cartoon, I guess.

I like J.R. Hewing from Dallas, and the Soup **** from Seinfeld. Heather Locklear from Melrose Place was bad news too. There's just too many to name to declare Mr. Burns the best.

demetrithegreek said

The Soup ****? The guy was there for one episode. It is nice that you think Mr. Burns is harmless. That way you will be good and vulnerable when he decides to release the hounds.

I am not calling Mr. Burns the most evil son of a **** on TV. I am saying he's the best evil son of a **** on TV. His antics never get boring. Heather Locklear was great at saying something nasty and then looking sexy. JR Ewing was just plain heartless. Mr. Burns is so multifacited. He runs the nuclear power plant, has endless wealth, is friends with Dracula, but it's never enough. So, he fixes contests at baseball games, throws pudding at his employees, and literally steals candy from babies.
Yes, Mr. Burns has a human side, but it is the great lengths he's willing to go to to make sure no one ever likes him too much that really makes him funny and dispicable.

You can have your dastardly, pure evil S-O-Bs. I'll take my villians with more bark than bite and more humor than pure wickedness.

RobGrizzly said

Mr. Burns was shot by a baby.

demetrithegreek said

And why did he get shot? Because he was trying to steal her candy. Being shot by a baby doesn't say anything about how evil or tame Mr. Burns is. It says that kids shouldn't be playing with guns.

RobGrizzly said

LOL very true!

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Does Simon Cowell count?

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I wouldn't say Burns is evil more so than he is misunderstood. Plus, anybody whose mortality can be threatened at the hands of a baby does not make a very convincing evil dude. To me, Nina Myers was the most deplorable villain. She was controlling, deceptive, and wickedly manipulative. Along with her self-serving motives and agendas, her viciously high degree of moral flexibility allowed her to betray and kill anybody who got in her way. You also have to credit her because her evilness helped shape Jack Bauer into the dark, tortured, yet admirably brutal bad **** that we know today.

Oct52007_957d_lg

Oh and without a doubt. Simon comes a close second.

Mar242006_869_lg

Burns pure evil? He may have done some trrible things, but also some good things as well. And the best villian in tv history?

Ben from Lost.
T-Bag from Prison Break.
Angelus from Angel.
Dante w/ Humonculi from Full Metal Alchemist
Lex Luther from Smallvie & Superman
most mothers in sictoms
Vince Mcmahon from WWE
and so on

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Baltar on Battlestar. I've never seen a man more obsessed with himself! His own selfishness got almost all of mankind destroyed. Ben from Lost is so bad he just might be good. Then there is Schillinger from OZ. Dear me he freaked me out.

Mar242006_869_lg

Your right about Ben, after all, he does call himself one of the "good guys".

Dec32004_795_lg

T-Bag is my favorite sociopath, but I'd have to vote Lionel Luthor from Smallville. Look at what that animal did to his own kid!

Apr92004_759_lg

I liked your shout-out to villainous mothers on sitcoms, very funny GreyWolf17

Apr182008_987_lg

C'mon! Arvin Sloane!

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Spike and Drusilla, Season 2 of Buffy- best villains ever.

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Two words: Benjamin Linus!

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Two more words: totally sucks.

Jan252008_975_lg

"You can have your dastardly, pure evil S-O-Bs. I'll take my villians with more bark than bite and more humor than pure wickedness."

Well, that's the big question then, is it not? What constitutes a quality villain? Pure evil or just playing the antagonist? Sadistically violent or sarcastically mean? Does scale matter? Q from the Star Trek universe almost wiped out man's existence. For fun. Burns IS bad, but he limits his involvement to the Springfield area; even then he is the antagonist in only...what, 1 of every 10 or 20 shows? Sorry, demetri. Good villain? Sure. Best ever? No way.

For my money, Ben Linus and Ray Wise's devil are the best villains. Ben is cold, calculating, manipulative, and unwilling to relinquish the slightest bit of power. He will stop at nothing to achieve his goal. He is a modern Machiavelli. Wise plays the devil exactly the way we all know Satan would actually be. The joviality, the slight charm, the maliciousness that rears up with no warning.

If however, you want my TRUE belief about villains, I'll point out that the throwdown makes no qualifier regarding TYPE of TV. Ergo, the biggest, baddest, most evil TV villain of all time is...

Dick Cheney.

Oct52007_957d_lg

Well, huzzah, if we're gonna to such broad extremes, then clearly the trophy for most evil villain in television history goes to... FOX network. No other entity has successfully massacred remarkable shows before their primes (see Firefly) yet continue to inexplicably renew really inferior shows (do people really watch American Dad?). If they renew Don't Forget the Lyrics and The Moment of Truth but cancel T:SCC, then it is clear that FOX is going against the grain of logic and quality standards and living up to their title as the the most dastardly villain in television history.

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burns is truly evil. not only does he have his personal grudges but lets not forget he is head of a nuclear power plant and most likely a multinational corporation. i believe burns would and has sold fissionable material to evil doers all over the world. hiding behind his frail exterior. the only person who can stop this threat is the only person who has stood up to him. Maggie Simpson.

Mar162007_925_lgEW

I'm gonna go with Tanya Turner from Footballers Wive$. Just a personal favorite.

Oct82004_787_lg

Sure Mr. Burns is great, but the best EVER? Maybe the most universally recognized...but the most interesting?

Baltar (BSG) is I think one of the best villains ever. What I love about him is that he isn't sitting there cackling and rubbing his hands. His villainess (is that a word?) just comes out of who he is and the decisions he makes.

Other great ones:

Cigarette Smoking Man (X-Files)
Angelus, Spike, Dru (Buffy)
Wolfram and Hart, Darla (Angel)
Ben Linus (on Lost)
Vilhemina Slater (Ugly Betty)
Sylar (Heroes)
Arvin Sloan (Alias)
Simon Cowell (American Idol)
Aaron Echols (Veronica Mars)

Mar142003_700_lg

Ray Wise as the devil is a good one, but what about Ray Wise as Leland Palmer/Bob...evil at it's most terrifying...and I would say hands down the scariest father ever on TV (perhaps my next challenge?!?).

Oct192007_959_960_lg

what about Alexis Carrington on Dynasty, Valerie on 90210, Abby on Knot's Landing and JR on Dallas.

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